I write this article with great reservation! There is always a thin line between legalism and liberty and I am going to attempt to walk this fine line as biblically as possible. My purpose is not to condemn but to spur others on to good deeds. My hope is that those who read this will read the arguments and scriptures provided and take them before the Lord in prayer and humility. So with no further do, let’s get into it.
As you may well know, the church is influenced by the world. I don’t believe that this is because we have a group of Christians who search out worldly things to mimic. I think it can simply be attributed to the fact that we live in the world, thus, standing out can lead to many misconceptions. Take the Amish for example. Good people, and from what I know are Godly people for the most part. Their distinctive, however, is one of not wanting to be polluted by the world, so they have a lifestyle that reflects such a distinctive. The end result is isolation and different of culture. It would not be hard to identify someone of Amish influence in a downtown Wal-Mart.
As Christians we have the dichotomy of being in the world (John 17:15-18) and not of the world. We are to live amongst the lost in order to be God’s ambassadors (2 Corinthians 5:20) while not being of the world and its passions (1 John 2:15-17). Most of us will spend maybe 3-4 hours per week with believers and the other 100 plus waking hours with non-believers. Our great adversary understands this and as “roaring lion” seeks to attack us at our weakest moments. Because the majority of our time is spent with those who don’t know God and have no desire to please him, sometimes their worldview rubs off on us. Especially on matters that can tend to be gray such as: movies, music, leisure, and what I am going to address, clothing.
We live in a culture (America) that puts great emphasis on fashion. We spend a lot of time in malls, and department stores, and according to recent information we spend roughly $82 Billion Dollars on clothing a year. We are the most image conscious culture in the world today and as I stated earlier it is not unusual for the “called out ones” to be heavily influenced by the world they live in. We need clothes so that isn’t the problem and looking nice isn’t the problem either. No one want to look like a ragamuffin at work, or out on a nice date so dressing beautifully isn’t the problem. However, there is a problem that is rearing its ugly head, and this problem should not exist among us who called ourselves the elect of God.
During the past 10 years, clothing has begun to shrink as it relates to mass. Shorts are much shorter, skirts are much tighter and sorter, shirts have loss any visible signs of a neck not to mention they are much tighter and shorter, jeans are lower and tighter and dresses now look like either twin bed sheets or night gowns. Not to mention lingerie is now considered professional dress. Walking on a college campus or a mall in the summer can be very difficult for a young man trying to keep his mind pure or desiring to look at a fellow woman as a human versus a filet mignon. The world has made this every difficult and the church is now joining in!
If you know anything about me, I have no problem with nonbelievers behaving like nonbelievers. I don’t have a problem with 50 Cent, T.I, Britney Spears and others. They are enemies of God and they only do what their father the devil tells them to do. They are under the complete control of the enemy and there is absolutely nothing they can do to help themselves. If it were not for the Grace of God we would be in the same predicament as most prisoners and prostitutes. However, there is a slight difference (satire here). We have been called out (1 Peter 2:9 by God, to be His workmanship (Eph 2:10) for good works. We belong to Christ and are the ones who have crucified our flesh and its passions (Gal 5:24). We are to be as aliens on foreign land, and the world is not to have the same influence over us, as it does those who don’t know God (Eph 2:3).
So the problem I have is not with Beyonce, but with those who consider themselves as part of God’s kingdom. So as a Christian woman goes out into the world to interact with the loss, I believe she is to have a higher since of piety. As young and older women purposefully or inadvertently dress provocatively, the women called of God should stand firm with holiness and modesty being their watchword. However due to the relaxed dress codes in church, which I am the first to say is the best way to go, coupled with worldly influences our churches have become a LANDMINE OF LUST, and it is only a matter of time before one of the brothers lose a limb or his life!
So below are some things to consider as you embark on a journey towards modesty. Those who have a heart to hear from God would at least consider this article as being one of great concern. I pray that you would consider these proposals carefully and with your spiritual lenses on. So here we go……..
Does my dress cause others to look at me inappropriately?
If you often find yourself offended because someone is looking at your chest while you speak to them instead of your face, or if you are aware of men looking back at you while you pass, then your clothing may not be appropriate. An argument against that I have heard is “well these dudes will look at me this way if I were dressed any other way”. This is a lie from down below! If Jennifer Lopez would have worn the same outfit Mother Teresa wore no one would have been playing her Grammy clip over and over again. Nor would man be running through walls to see Toni Braxton accept her Grammy. Listen, these guys are looking at you for a reason. Unless you have been endowed with Dolly Pardon’s anatomy most men will not stare at your chest as if he was starving to death and he just dropped his chicken down your shirt! Typically what you have on is bringing inappropriate attention to your chest area. Maybe your shirt is to tight and your bra to thin. Or maybe your shirt is too low. Whatever the problem is, most men within the body of Christ don’t want to struggle with staring at your chest there is enough problems battling the enemy to put you on the list. Furthermore if you are getting a lot of stares at your backside maybe you want to find a different designer. Some women have been given bigger bottoms and how the jeans fit on one girl may cause you to be pursued like a surfer with a fresh cut in the ocean.
Are women tuning their nose up at you? Or do you sense some jealousy?
Now this is much easier to discern that a brother lusting after you. Women know women and you know when someone is looking at you like you just took their husband, job, and kids! Men aren’t the only one who struggle, jealousy is brewed due to this also, if not jealousy at leas envy. I hear all the time from women “she knows better than to wear that”. I have seen women blush as some things other women have on. This shouldn’t be in the body of Christ. If you find yourself with no friends or if another sister has approached you to talk about your clothes, then you may have problem. Once again you have never saw anyone raise concerns about the way Condoleezza Rice dress have you. She has not raised an ounce of concern or envy with other women.
Do you think you are sexy or are you attempting to draw attention to yourself?
We have a new fad among professing Christians today, the fad of being sexy. Now how a Christian can want to be labeled sexy from anyone other than their spouse is cause for great concern. You see God left us something with his word and I will provide a couple of verses to help you out:
1 Timothy 2:9-10
9 likewise also that women should adorn themselves in respectable apparel, with modesty and self-control, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly attire, 10 but with what is proper for women who profess godliness—with good works.
I don’t need to explain this one to anyone I hope. I believe the writing is clear. So let us try another few verses
1 Peter 3:1-6
3:1 Likewise, wives, be subject to your own husbands, so that even if some do not obey the word, they may be won without a word by the conduct of their wives, 2 when they see your respectful and pure conduct. 3 Do not let your adorning be external—the braiding of hair and the putting on of gold jewelry, or the clothing you wear— 4 but let your adorning be the hidden person of the heart with the imperishable beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which in God’s sight is very precious. 5 For this is how the holy women who hoped in God used to adorn themselves, by submitting to their own husbands, 6 as Sarah obeyed Abraham, calling him lord. And you are her children, if you do good and do not fear anything that is frightening.
Peter takes this a step further. He is dealing with the submissive heart of a wife; however, this should be the standard for all women, as most women will become or has a desire to be wives at some point. Peter says this type of woman is precious in “God’s sight” now I pray that every Christian’s desire is to be precious in the sight of the Master who gave His Son up for us. What a privilege it is to honor Him with more than our lip service, but also with our bodies and minds as Paul states in Romans 12! The Godly woman is the woman who draws attention to herself for the cause of the Gospel, not to be considered sexy! I don’t know how this one infiltrated the church but it snuck in, because I am usually game to current church trends. I happened to see someone on Sunday’s Best (a knock off American Idol for black Christians) with a sexy belt buckle and I thought to myself, she has no clue what she has been called into (though she may not be a believer).
Final thoughts
Paul says this in Romans 14 “13 Therefore let us not pass judgment on one another any longer, but rather decide never to put a stumbling block or hindrance in the way of a brother” Listen you may believe that you have the liberty to wear what you please and “everybody else just best get over it”. But that is not the heart of one who has been purchased with the blood of the Lamb. Christ laid down his life to reconcile a heinous and rebellious group of God haters to His Father. How much more should we lay down our lives for one another. Read Philippians 2:1-4 and get the heart of Paul as he writes to that church about inner strife. Listen, if you love your brothers you would do what it takes to serve them and one way to serve them is to but your liberty on the backburner to see him grown in Godliness. This is what is meant by “don’t merely look out for your own interest” yeah what you wear may be jazzy but your brothers spend the next three days in prayer trying not to think about the tattoo you have on your lower back to is visible for the world because of your low rise jeans. Or he is trying not to think about how endowed you are in your chest area because your shirt was a little to snug. We don’t have the same privilege the world has, we have a greater one. We have been set free to serve the Master of the Universe, let’s not subject ourselves again to a yoke of slavery. God bless.
Read this from Caroly Mahney a great resource for Christian Women
15 responses so far ↓
GUNNY HARTMAN // November 20, 2007 at 7:09 am
“Now how a Christian can want to be labeled sexy from anyone other than their spouse is cause for great concern.”
Amen, brother. Some good thoughts up in here and I’ll have to add it to my “Mondays” list.
Men are depraved enough without help!
There’s no excuse for how men disrespect women and treat them as objects, but I do hate to see ladies (particularly Christian ones) facilitating that behavior.
In general, ladies, you’re making things too easy on these guys. They need to be competing for your attention, not the other way around.
lionelwoods7 // November 20, 2007 at 1:55 pm
Thanks pastor Gunny, it has been a growing concern, especially at my church where the majority of the congregants are under 21 and 70% are women. Thanks for the plug sir. God bless!
angela aka mrs. maverick // November 20, 2007 at 5:29 pm
hi guys,
as far as the clothing issue is concerned, you both make valid points. as a woman, i honestly don’t understand the predicament the brethren face whenever you see scantily clad women. on one hand i feel as if you should have your eyes consecrated to the Lord and purpose not to look on a woman with lust no matter how revealing her attire; on the other, i wonder if, (since i’m not a man) i’m being unfairly unrealistic. i’m aware of what the Scriptures say in Rom. 14:13, and 1 Cor. 8:9 so i can see where sexy clothing might cause a brother to have an unnecessary struggle. however, the onus still falls on the individual to lead a life of purity and consecration. it’s one thing to appreciate the attractiveness of the opposite sex, it’s another to let our minds wander off and imagine all sorts of vain things with them. i think it all boils down to how willing are we to fight against impure thoughts. even if all the sisters wore burkas in the congregation- you brethren would still be faced with all the “eye candy” in the streets, and in your work places. what then?
Job 31:1 says “I made a covenant with mine eyes; why then should I think apon a maid?” this is my point. it’s up to each individual to actively guard against sinful thoughts. in our humanity we will always be faced with the temptation to lust after people and/or things; and even though the spirit is willing, and the flesh is weak- God still makes a way of escape with every temptation in order that we may bear it.
angela aka mrs. maverick // November 20, 2007 at 5:46 pm
the clock on this site is way off.
Talya (Keeper at Home) // November 20, 2007 at 9:30 pm
A few months ago the Lord began convicting me to dress more modestly & femininely. By the world’s standards, my mostly-jeans attire was already pretty conservative, but I now wear mainly skirts and dresses — I have not worn pants since July, which is completely unheard of for me.
I do not want to be a stumbling block to any of the men for whom this may be a struggle. However, we are called to a standard of modesty regardless of anyone else’s struggles or weaknesses.
Likewise, I am not comfortable with my husband viewing immodestly dressed women, especially women who claim Christ. I have yet to pull any of these ladies aside, but the day is coming. I see women with tight shirts that have a word written across the breasts and wonder if they realize where the attention is being drawn.
In the end, I believe both sides have to take responsibility for their behavior — men should guard against lustful thoughts, but women are to dress modestly so as not to be a stumbling block, and more importantly out of obedience to the Lord. In Christ, Talya
angela aka mrs. maverick // November 21, 2007 at 2:19 am
hi talya,
wow, sis- you and i did a flip flop lol. i wasn’t brought up in a Christian home, and didn’t hear about Jesus ’til i was about 10 years old, but even then, the gospel wasn’t preached to me. i was about 19 when a man witnessed to me and subsequently, i was born again a few months later. i didn’t know anything about the Word of God and through a cousin’s friend i ended up joining a pentecostal baptist fellowship. all that i learned, i learned from this one particular pastor and the ministers there. i was so overjoyed in my new life in Christ that i ate everything he fed me, and anything i was told to do, or give up for Jesus- i gladly, and obediently did.
my former pastor had a very strict a.k.a legalist view about clothing. before Christ, i would wear skirts and dresses if the occasion called for it, but i was most comfortable in my jeans. however, since we were always preached to about modesty, shamefacedness, and abstaining from looking like the world- we were admonished to: quit wearing pants, sew up the splits in our skirts, lower our hem lines, cover up our toes and heels, wear sleeves that covered up our shoulders and arms, wear girdles (if we needed it) sew up low cut blouses, put a jacket or sweater around sheer blouses and whatever a needle and thread, or extra clothing couldn’t handle- just get rid of it! girl… i cleaned out my closet from top to bottom. i never mind getting rid of my pants, not even in the winter time. i stopped wearing pants for about 14 years. when my husband and i left that congregation, we ended up at one that was more relaxed in their standards of acceptable clothing. i was in culture shock. i saw women wearing sleeveless blouses, naked legs w/ mini skirts, and jeans on sunday morning. i was taught over there to “render your heart, and not your garment” and that too many people focus on clothes. since i came from under a ministry that did focus on clothes BIG TIME, i was glad to not have to hear about it anymore. i eventually started wearing pants again, and only wear dresses or skirts for special occasions. i’m not the least bit convicted about my attire because i still dress modestly. pants are now my preference and my husband doesn’t mind. If he did, then i suppose i wouldn’t wear them (i also haven’t dyed my hair, or put locks in it because he doesn’t want me to).
as far as modesty goes, i don’t think it’s so much about pants because i think i still dress very femininely in them. i earnestly believe it’s always a heart issue and a matter of preference. if i knew a sister well enough to say something to her about her immodest apparel, it wouldn’t be mainly because of the brethren’s sake; but more about how unregenerate men may view her and how she is an ambassador for Christ. i don’t apologize brethren, but I just can’t let you guys off the hook when it comes to the eye/lust issue. i’ve been married for 16 years, and my husband and i have had this conversation before. we both feel that if a “sister” marched herself right up hallelujah boulevard in a string bikini, the responsibility would still be on the believer (male and female) to abstain from entertaining ungodly thoughts regardless of the difficulty. this may take a lot of trial and failure but our God will help us in our desire to walk in purity.
finally, even though i hold the man totally responsible for whatever thoughts he entertains (not the one that enters, but the one he lets stays there and plays with over and over because it’s so sinfully pleasurable), i still think that a godly, and mature sister would not want to incite lust in the brethren simply out of her agape for them, and her desire to represent Christ in a spirit of sobriety and sanctification.
ps. God is so faithful, immediately after finishing up this last paragraph, i was convicted about an article of clothing that i need to get rid of.
Ann Brock // November 24, 2007 at 10:22 pm
I like this post, so here is my take on it. I really think the young women of this generation should be taught how to dress. Especially when coming in to the House of Worship. Halter top, low rider pants that show off there tattoos, slinky dresses ect…. Some of them look like they just left the night spot. A lot of it is not knowing. No one have taken the time to explain what is proper and improper dress for coming into the presence of Mighty God. I have seen Christian woman dressing the same way. I can under stand the unsaved but our saved woman should not be doing that. You find out what’s approbate for any other place you want to attend so why not for church.
Christi // November 27, 2007 at 9:17 pm
This is a wonderful post. I like this site and I look forward to reading more.
I have been dressing modestly and taught my girls to dress modestly for the past ten years.
Shelley the Find Your True Beauty Girl // December 9, 2007 at 9:06 pm
Here are a couple great resources on modesty:
Modesty survey taken by over 1600 Christian guys
http://www.therebelution.com/modestysurvey/
Dannah Gresh’s Truth or Bare Fashion Tests
http://purefreedom.org/downloads/SKLockerPoster.pdf
~Shelley
Michelle // January 30, 2008 at 9:39 am
I wanted to say to those saying women should know how to dress to come to church that that pretentious attitude is exactly what tripped up churches in the past: we should not be teaching women how to dress for church as Christians, we should be teaching women how to dress as Christians PERIOD. What they wear to church should be good enough for anywhere else, and what they where anywhere else should be good enough for church. I can’t afford a whole new wardrobe with my convictions, so if I have on lowrise jeans, I wear a button up shirt or non-formfitting blouse to keep the belly or back from showing when I sit. If I wear a spaghetti strap tank with low neckline, I wear a suit around it so that it looks like the Macy’s workers and the word people think of is classy. Also, I hate to say it, but some women just have more sex appeal than others and that is where the men’s own personal fight for self control needs to take over. I have been approached in regular big old sweatpants or other “unattractive” clothes thrown on to run an errand…I have also seen women with bottoms so naturally big that NOTHING they wear will look anything but sexy on them…pants for some of us women, especially black women, will either show our backside, or hang off it like the gangster rap boys. I am not talking about deliberately skintight pants that look painted on, I am talking about normal straightleg, wideleg, or bootcuts that simply cannot hide all of a woman’s natural curves assuming she has not given in to the sin of greed and still has a female shape. But I do think that many men know the difference between a woman God has blessed with an extra curvy body who is clearly making a serious attempt to dress properly, and women, curvy or not, who obviously dressed to get their attention…
I would also like black women with these overboard and often classless looking hairdos to note the bible verses quoted on braids and gold jewelry…I had a big attraction to giant silver hoops and aside from that ugly look i see on other females with large earrings where it pulls their earlobe down, and the extra expense in buying additional professional looking jewellery, I just decided moderation in all things should extend to the earrings, plus if I’m on a budget I should have one style that can go anywhere, so after losing or damaging the umpteenth pair of large hoops, I decided I will stick to the small hoops that can also be worn to work. And they look great. Most of us in telling men to watch themselves though, need to remember that in a world losing itself with people looking for leaders and role models, many people will look at how you live your life for their evidence of the relevance and realness of Christianity, not the nice words on Sunday. And how you dress is a part of how you live. I am coming to terms with that myself cause I have too many sexy clothes that I need to either convert with a well-placed jacket or neutralizing piece, or throw out. Some of them God has seen fit to make me no longer able to fit, and I think that has been a blessing in disguise in forcing me into more moderate combinations of what’s left by default.
Good luck ladies it’s hard for us to admit this stuff (and I am sure some of the ones complaining about tattoos and bellies wear braids, ghetto hairstyles, and/or gold and other unnecessary things in church/elsewhere, so let’s not judge too harshly on outward appearance).
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Cissy // February 19, 2008 at 2:35 pm
Forget all this on dress….Who chose the non-Christian music for this website. Is this really God-honoring?????
lionelwoods7 // February 19, 2008 at 2:37 pm
Can you let me know which of these songs are not God-Honoring?
Chris // April 16, 2008 at 4:21 pm
Hey, just wanted to add some thoughts because this is a subject ive studied alot.
1st id like to point out that the scriptures in the new testament which use the word “modestly” in refrence to “woman adorning themselves” is not talking about “coverage” or “tightness” or “revealingness” of the clothing; as we view the word. If you read it in context and do a little word study. We would use words more like “flashy” “fancy” …the actually root of the word is the same word used when it talks about God adorning the sky with stars. So it’s really in refrence to jewelry etc. (not to mention is talking about at an assembly of christians)
2nd id like to point out that different men are attracted to different things about women. There are tribes in parts of the world where woman are topless and it’s the norm: men are used to it… therefore what is “provocative” is 100% a cultural thing.
Point being: the Bible has no guidelines for what and how much a woman should wear….
Therefore: It’s between a girl, and/or her husband, and the holy ghost to decide what she should wear. And Biblically, at a church service she should “blend in”
NOW: she should by no way lure men to lust (particularly intentionally)
BUT, as paul says, we have to be “all things to all people”
The reason we are still here and not in Heaven is to reach people! You wanna reach businness men wear a nice suite… you wanna reach surfers wear the coolest board shorts you can find… Get the picture?
SOOOOOOOOOOOO….. It’s all balance. We are here to get people saved. We have to blend in the culture… Christian’s cant look like freaks. BUT: we cant compromise our morals to do so.
***…its…just…balance…***
But we have to be willing to adjust. Yes: if woman wear less clothes it will cause men to lust: BUT after a while if it is mainstream and common men will also adjust and it will no longer be some “wow” thing… see what i mean? Like Playboy back-in-the-day was NOTHING compared to what it is now… Woman had plenty of clothes on: But THAT isnt whats causing men to lust (at the level playboy wants them to) anymore… Basically if Christian woman never adapt from the “cultural standard” of 30, 40, 50 years ago then that’s rediculous! We are in this culture for a reason: People shouldnt be embarrassed to be Christians: Christians should be considered the coolest most attractice people: We are here to reach people!!
Christian woman should live holy lives and represent Jesus… but i think they should be the most beautiful woman in their culture too! But if every girl at the beach is in a bikinis and you have the 3 or 4 christian woman there in nun-outfits… you get the point. Now should they wear bikinis? That’s definatly a grey-area. Bikinis are the norm and basically every girl at the beach will be wearing one: but bikini’s are definatly still provactive and alluring in most men’s eyes: I say it’s between that girl and the holy ghost and we shouldnt judge. If i was a sinner id much rather be witnessed to by a hot chick in a bikini than a woman in a nun outfit!!!
…but hey, that’s just me…
Ill sum it up this way:
“Woman dress to be as culturally acceptable as possible without wearing something that would cause the average man to lust (and that’s between her and the holy ghost)”
lionelwoods7 // April 16, 2008 at 4:37 pm
Actually Chris, no offense here, but maybe you need to study it a bit more. and read my post again. So let me tell you where I disagree.
1. The standard isn’t her and her Holy Ghost. That is a western individualistic Christian mindset, all things are to be done in community.
2. The context is the local body in Timothy but nowhere is it limited to jewels or flashy clothing. Paul is saying “anything” that attracts people to you (on purpose) and turns people eyes from your savior is uncacceptable the verse says “respectable apperal” and our culture is never the standard. If we conform to every cultural norm we will be in big trouble in the near future.
3. Jesus didn’t become a prostitute to minister to prostitutes or a tax collector to minister to tax collectors or an adulterer to minister to adulterers. That verse is used out of context so much that I have lost count. Paul is saying he didn’t let his cultural biases prevent him from ministering to other cultures. I don’t think to minister to strippers you have to be topless.
4. I never said you can’t adapt but adaptation where the culture parts with Christian ethics is never condoned in scripture. Pauls writing is saying “love them, serve them, but don’t do as they do”.
5. Your last paragraph is very troubling for me Chris. To say that Christian women should be “the most beautiful women in culture” is not the mind of Christ. They should be the most Godly women but the most beautiful is vain and undermines 1 Timothy and 1 Peter.
Finally you saying “you would rather be witnessed to a woman in bikini” speaks volumes to your position on this. I pray it was a joke on a very serious matter.